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Steering the ship as a result of a fintech revolution, controversies, and extra

On a cloudy mid-Oct working day at PayPal’s (PYPL) New York Metropolis headquarters, I discover Dan Schulman — who I’ve been getting to know further than the common reporting things for close to seven yrs — a wee little bit far more comfortable than standard.

To be obvious, Schulman, 65, is usually on the awesome, tranquil, and collected aspect — the most outwardly calm and mentally present general public enterprise CEO I have ever encountered. He basically wears his down-to-earth leadership philosophy.

I have told him plenty of periods I have in no way noticed him in something other than his trademark black shirt, mild blue jeans, and brown cowboy boots that surely hide his well-toned, Krav Maga-manufactured physique (I have by no means told him about the previous section…).

At first, I assumed this chiller-than-norm vibe was a reflection of him rallying back again from an unexpected emergency appendectomy a couple weeks before.

Previous PayPal CEO Dan Schulman (suitable) demonstrates on his leadership journey inside of the PayPal NYC headquarter he opened with Yahoo Finance Government Editor Brian Sozzi (left). (Yahoo Finance) (Yahoo Finance)

Maybe that is element of it. But then I recognized — after years of getting bold stances on warm button social issues and working with sophisticated small business matters, Schulman at last has a couple of excess minutes in his week.

His very last formal working day as PayPal’s CEO was Sept. 26, 2023, nearly nine several years immediately after the then top rated exec at American Categorical (AXP) took the best gig. Schulman handed his reins to previous Intuit (INTU) exec Alex Chriss, 46, soon after a prolonged lookup.

With this transition, Schulman is now using a minute to reflect on his management resume.

“I actually you should not have any regrets,” Schulman instructed me in a new episode of Yahoo Finance’s “Lead This Way.”

“I would have regrets if I was not producing decisions, if I experienced felt like, ‘OK I need to be really cautious now and not make complicated choices,'” Schulman additional. “But I imagine as leaders, you have to have to be quietly self-assured in your potential to take in as several information as you can. You can by no means have all the info you want, but you should make decisions and go forward.”

About that resume…

Prior to PayPal, Schulman served in huge-time management roles at AT&T (T), American Specific, and Priceline. He even aided start Virgin Cellular with Sir Richard Branson soon after the Sept. 11 terrorist assaults. The billionaire entrepreneur reaffirmed to him what it usually means for leaders to choose challenges and be bold, Schulman tells me.

But no doubt his management legacy will be intently aligned with his time atop PayPal.

And rightfully so.

Schulman arguably kicked off a golden ten years of fintech in the mid-2010s, developing a new need to “democratize” financial expert services for the ordinary person.

Growing PayPal’s access outside of retail store payments to crypto and payment sharing (via millennial manufacturer Venmo) were being but a handful of of Schulman’s achievements.

In the process, PayPal’s sector cap surged from $50 billion all around the time of its Nasdaq debut in 2015 to much more than $362 billion at its peak in the summer months of 2021.

The firm’s overall payment volume is estimated to have strike 1.5 billion in 2023, up from 282 million in 2015. Active accounts have absent from 179 million to around 430 million in the course of that same stretch.

Dan Schulman's leadership tips.

Dan Schulman’s management tips.

Schulman disciples — aka PayPal leaders — have long gone on to big C-suite roles elsewhere, this sort of as Walmart’s (WMT) CFO John David Rainey (previous PayPal CFO) and Pinterest (PINS) CEO Monthly bill All set (former PayPal COO).

As PayPal’s profile rose, so did Schulman’s, spurring him to tackle social concerns he believed ought to be addressed by a outstanding leader that is just not concerned to discuss out.

None was a lot more headline-grabbing than the final decision to cancel strategies to open a global functions heart in Charlotte, N.C., soon after lawmakers passed a controversial law concentrating on LGBT persons in 2016.

“The new regulation perpetuates discrimination and it violates the values and rules that are at the main of PayPal’s mission and lifestyle,” Schulman reported in a assertion at the time.

Schulman concedes currently that the final decision to talk out arrived with unintended aftershocks.

“I felt like that was anathema to our values,” Schulman tells me. “And so we pulled out of North Carolina. I experienced no plan that it would be entrance site information of the New York Occasions. I experienced no concept the selection of demise threats that I would get as a outcome of that and despise electronic mail.”

“My look at is that our platform need to be a platform exactly where you can have civil discourse, exactly where you can raise revenue for organizations that will not advocate violence or serious hatred,” ongoing Schulman. “You would consider there would not be much controversy of having down neo-Nazi web-sites or KKK internet sites, but there normally are.”

The exit — and the path ahead

As they say in life, almost nothing is excellent. And even Schulman experienced a couple bumps in the road retiring from PayPal.

Now, PayPal’s market place cap stands all-around $65 billion, amid slower development and climbing opposition from more recent entrants this kind of as Robinhood (HOOD), Affirm (AFRM), and Coinbase (COIN), and legacy payment models like his previous employer Amex and Mastercard (MA).

Apple (AAPL) and Google (GOOGL) have also manufactured powerful inroads into the payments marketplace with choices of their own.

In the direction of the stop of Schulman’s tenure, PayPal was attacked by famed activist investor Elliott Management in the summer months of 2022. Elliott demanded price tag cuts to offset pressures on the leading line and boost the sagging stock price tag.

The enterprise went on to outline $900 million in value cuts — primarily by way of layoffs, real estate consolidation, and project cutbacks. It also uncorked a $15 billion inventory buyback system.

With that problem finished and dusted, Schulman and the board got to get the job done on selecting his successor.

By December 2023, Schulman remaining PayPal’s board, with the ship firmly in the hands of Chriss, who’s been in the trenches outlining his options for the corporation Schulman took general public.

As for what is up coming, Schulman hints he has a good deal of nicely-acquired solutions — together with “senior” authorities roles — staying available. He declined to share specifics.

He programs to reveal his next move in the coming months, just after getting some time off and assessing the choices with his wife and little ones.

“A single of the factors that I am struggling with a very little bit right now is the amount of prospects in entrance of me and attempting to consider about what do I want my everyday living to appear like likely forward,” Schulman claims. “I really feel no tension in building a good deal of choices suitable absent.”

Where ever Schulman ends up, this journalist thinks a black shirt, light-weight blue jeans, and cowboy boots will not be way too far at the rear of. That and the teachings of Krav Maga and learnings from a lifetime in the C-suite.

Lead this way, catch it weekly Thursday at 3pm ET.

Lead this way, catch it weekly Thursday at 3pm ET.

Brian Sozzi is Yahoo Finance’s Executive Editor. Comply with Sozzi on Twitter/X @BrianSozzi and on LinkedIn. Strategies on promotions, mergers, activist conditions, or everything else? Electronic mail [email protected].

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